12 April 2021
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18:14
unosonic
dear list/eners, there will be an adhoc anthropophone listening session at 7pm Berlin time! sorry for the short hand announcement....
Georg Spehr joined group by link from Group
u
18:49
The Königsheide was originally part of the Köllnische Heide, which extended from Neukölln (Rixdorf before 1912, Neukölln from 1920) to Köpenick. As industrialization progressed, parts of this contiguous forest area were cleared for housing and industrial construction. The forest stands on somewhat elevated valley sands, which are thus drier than the Spree floodplain to the northeast and also than the adjoining former Rudow meadows to the west, formerly a marshy area. Since the settlement of the valley areas of the Spree in the late Middle Ages, large areas of the Köllnische Heide have been used as pasture land; since the 19th century, the forest areas had to give way to the development of residential and commercial areas and associated infrastructure facilities in the course of urbanization and the formation of large cities around Berlin. The remnants in the northwest of the district of Johannisthal, bordered by the Königsheideweg and the Südostallee, are the Königsheide, an area of about 110 hectares, which today serves as a nature reserve and water conservation area for general recreation. Translated from wikipedia https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsheide_(Berlin)
18:50
Microphone in the wooden fence
19:00
listen at https://radio.aporee.org:8443/mobilemic8
19:02
hi welcome, anybody on the air? ;)
JT
19:04
Julia Tieke
Yes, me, but only for some minutes 🙂 I wish I could just come over, lovely birds!
u
19:06
unosonic
it's special with the birds, they almost tame, an old lady come daily to feed them, since years. maybe other people too. if you sit there, they come very close
19:06
many people go there for a walk
19:07
today I've heard a black woodpecker flying by calling
JT
19:09
Julia Tieke
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Ah wow ! Take me with you to the Königs forest some time please
u
19:10
unosonic
sure, it's nice when it's warmer, then the frogs make nice concerts there
JT
19:11
Julia Tieke
Sounds good 🐝
PC
19:11
Peter Cusack
Hello - am with you
JT
19:11
Julia Tieke
Hello!
PC
19:12
Am hearing a great spotted woodpecker 'chucking'
u
19:13
unosonic
hi Peter, yes, a Buntspecht in german. all ok with your mic?
PC
19:14
Peter Cusack
I think so - maybe it was just an unusually quiet moment
u
19:14
unosonic
some recordings from this place: https://aporee.org/maps/work/?clat=52.454732&clng=13.485182&z=18&m=satellite
PC
19:16
Peter Cusack
Some ducks as well
u
19:20
unosonic
it is a place highly influenced and changed by humans, bozh in size and ground water conditions.
19:20
but is is a rather old forest, or remains of.
19:26
the wooden fence around the pond is home off 1000s mice... nice to watch when yo sit there for a while
FG
19:27
Flavien Gillié
What was it passing by? (hello !)
u
19:28
unosonic
I guess that was a duck pretty close to the mic, then heading towards the pond
19:29
the big wooden fence gives shelter to many, the ducks are often near the fence.
FG
19:29
Flavien Gillié
I was listening on radio aporee, but had a connexion problem when switching to high
u
19:29
unosonic
seems to wok ok.
FG
19:31
Flavien Gillié
Ah ok, I'll investigate on my side.
u
19:33
unosonic
city nature is always busy, people walking dogs or having a promenade, sometimes a party, and has a typical traffic noise background. cars, sirens, others
PC
19:41
Peter Cusack
It's a very stable soundscape - kind of timeless
u
19:47
unosonic
you mean timeless in its "composition" or by the events (not) happening? indeed the wind engine rotation last time added a time pattern
PC
19:50
Peter Cusack
There's a timeless quality in the species heard, no surprises. They seem as if they have always been there. The sound stays very constant.
u
19:54
unosonic
what do you think, we could switch over to your stream from London, before it's geting dark there...
PC
19:55
Peter Cusack
Sure, there another hour of light here
u
19:56
unosonic
ok, it's here: http://radio.aporee.org:8000/peterc (a bumble bee seems to like your mic... ;)
PC
19:57
Peter Cusack
yes i like the insects that come close when streaming or recording
FG
19:58
Flavien Gillié
I have your mobilemic8 stream working, but Peter's one gives me an error
19:59
Une erreur est survenue pendant une connexion à radio.aporee.org:8000. PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR
PC
FG
19:59
Flavien Gillié
Thanks Peter !
u
19:59
unosonic
yes, try the https one, it depends on the browser
FG
19:59
Flavien Gillié
that works now
PC
20:00
Peter Cusack
Some photos from the location
20:00
20:00
20:00
u
20:02
unosonic
reminds me a bit on Berlin Buch, interesting
PC
20:02
Peter Cusack
It's the Lee Valley, Londons second river (much canalised). some of the first rail lines were built along side. they are still used.
20:02
Yes, but no autobahns
20:04
The dawn chorus at this place is very busy - 5/8am London time
20:05
Birds here don't sing from the same place. They constantly move around while singing.
20:08
That's another thing i like about streams - because you are not there wildlife come extremely close. It gives the listening an amazing perspective
20:13
There's a kind of alternative community here. Many people live on boats and younger homeless people sometimes sleep amongst the trees. Quite often there music playing. Very cold at the moment though.
20:14
Parakeets around
u
20:15
unosonic
is it a nature reserve?
PC
20:17
Peter Cusack
Yes, it's a nature area - called a 'site of special scientific interest'. so protected
20:19
A narrow strip along most of the length of the river Lee is now the Lee Valley Park, so can't be built on.
u
20:22
unosonic
the degree of vulnerability or endangerment of an natural area is one of its characteristics
20:22
one cannot think of nature without this category in mind
20:23
that makes is a cultural thing, among others
PC
20:26
Peter Cusack
Agreed. This area has a long history as the eastern edge of London, where the industry and many things governments (and kings) want kept from site are placed. Some still remains - the water industry - some has become culture (the site of the first explosives factory in the 16th century)
20:27
'kept from sight' i meant
20:28
my first field recordings were made here - on cassette in the 1980s.
u
20:35
unosonic
what kind of trains are these?
PC
20:37
Peter Cusack
mostly local commuter trains. very little freight. the trains to stansted airport pass by here.
u
20:37
unosonic
they sound different, in size, speed, weight
20:38
when you say 'site of special scientific interest', does that mean that research is happening there
PC
20:39
Peter Cusack
there are are 3 lines. one is built over brick arches, so resonates. the the bridges over the river are old and thundery.
20:39
mostly the trains are similar but it make a big difference which line thewy tak.
u
20:39
unosonic
thundery sounds great, didnt know this word
PC
20:41
Peter Cusack
observation happens here, but not really research (as far as I know). the name comes from the time when calling something scientific made it easier to persude others that it shouldn't be built on.
u
20:50
unosonic
my impression or are there more people and human activity than before?
PC
20:52
Peter Cusack
yes, the weather is better and slightly warmer this evening. there is also a nearby park with tennis courts and kids stuff. but it is very popular. there's a barbeeQ area.
20:53
the valley acoustics mean that we are hearing quite some distance clearly
20:55
the Lee Valley Park emphasises 'leisure' as one of the activities.
u
20:56
unosonic
still lockdown +/- in London ?
PC
20:57
Peter Cusack
less. today non essential shops re-opened, also pubs and restaurants if they have space outside. maybe there a little partying going on.
u
21:00
unosonic
the situation here is much more tense, curfews in sight...
the birds at https://radio.aporee.org:8443/mobilemic8 have stopped singing. no you can rather hear the mice
the birds at https://radio.aporee.org:8443/mobilemic8 have stopped singing. no you can rather hear the mice
PC
21:02
Peter Cusack
the light is falling here now, but of course the train continue. gulls make sound all night. also foxes.
21:12
i must cook something to eat and get ready to travel to Suffolk tomorrow morning. I will set up the stream there in the next days. It's much more rural. Maybe less to hear given the nature-unfriendliness of farming areas today.
21:13
This stream will continue till tomorrow morning around 9am
21:13
Good to listen to 2 areas in comparison.
u
21:17
unosonic
I guess most of the (few) listener today have left. Anyway, was good. Do you have another location in mind before coming back to Berlin?
21:19
the ducks at Königsheide enjoy having the space for themselves now.
PC
21:19
Peter Cusack
Yes, maybe marshland in Suffolk. Maybe aslo be possible near a nuclear power station. But actually there's little to hear.
u
21:30
unosonic
I think I'm having a listening break now. though the mice are funny here & there, feels like they're in your ear. ASMR ... ;)
21:33
thanks Peter & all for joining! all radio logs are at https://aporee.org/fieldradio but will provide a page with chat logs too.
FG
21:53
Flavien Gillié
Thanks, it was nice to have both locations and switch from one to another.