5 January 2023
JG
20:56
John Grzinich
Hi Everyone. We’re getting a cold spell this weekend in Estonia. I’ve decided to set up my stream box. It’s placed 10m from our house near our apple trees where we have a bird feeder. You’ll hear the bird activity in the morning. Right now it’s quiet except for the cold north wind, my wind instruments (wind harp and chimes) and some trees cracking because the temperature is dropping rapidly. https://aporee.org:8443/mobilemic18
Mikel invited Donia
mv
21:10
milos vojtech
nice, and happy new year john!!
u
23:02
unosonic
so nice how wind & harp sound together. Some times it sounds like the score of a Bela Tarr movie..
6 January 2023
JG
08:42
John Grzinich
Nice thought. Very still air this morning. Lots of blue tit activity.
JT
09:04
Julia Tieke
It’s really beautiful. You‘re a lucky man, John, to live in such sonic environment 🍀
u
09:55
unosonic
sometimes I have the feeling that listening to such live soundscapes relieves my desire to be in such environments. This does not happen when watching a BBC documentary about nature, planet earth etc., so my hearing seems to play an important role here, and the paradox presence of live listening maybe. anybody with similar feelings? ...
Wonder what that means for (future) nature experience.
JT
10:02
Julia Tieke
Yes, true! I said John must be a lucky man - and I hope he is 🙂 - but for example I need big cities, so listening to (or sometimes being in) such a sonic environment is like a short mental trip to “nature”. I am sure the live aspect is an important part of it, it is a calming experience that there are such places while oneself is in the Berlin underground, for example.
10:03
It also means you could run a start-up for stressed people, Udo, haha!
JG
11:12
John Grzinich
I do feel fortunate to live where I do, but it is also a conscious choice. I have lived in rural south Estonia for close to 20 years now. So I have a deeper perspective on the dynamics of the environment here. One of the biggest shifts for me in terms of listening has been the understanding of ‘acoustic horizons’. I’m not sure where I first heard this term but it has stuck with me. In visual culture we talk about people’s preferences for ‘visual horizons’ based often on where they grew up, if you lived by the seaside, in a rural setting or in the mountains etc, it is generally about the relation between the land and the sky and whether one prefers more open or enclosed (horizontal vs vertical?) horizons. I think there is some kind of parallel for the auditory, with the ‘horizon’ about the relative distances of sounds being perceived. It is something one adapts to and get used to. I could write a lot about the ‘acoustic dynamics’ of where I live but I think you can also hear it, the intimacy of the birds nearby mixed with the farm equipment 2km away and the road about 4km. This is a wide expanse. For me it is also an important qualitative difference beyond the urban vs nature dichotomy.
11:13
A rare flight these days, Istanbul > St Petersburg
11:24
I have been thinking and experimenting with listening and imagination for some time and I have seen how focused listeing, especially with unprocessed soundscapes, helps to open up or trigger the imagination. It may have something to do with the ‘acoustic horizon’ I mentioned before as some form of instictual ‘place sensing’ or it may have also to do with desire and the ability to project one’s ‘self’ into another environment. Either way, this is very different from the didactic format of BBC nature documentaries which is meant to work as a guided somewhat narrative view on the more-than-human world.
u
12:32
unosonic
interesting. this idea or concept of the acoustic horizon reminds me on the dazzling notion of landscape, as in Simon Schama’s monumental study of nature and its representations, Landscape and Memory: "Before it can ever be a repose for the senses, landscape is the work of the mind. Its scenery is built up as much from strata of memory as from layers of rock"
u
19:34
unosonic
a helicopter at night?
u
19:53
unosonic
dogs and tawny owls
(still on https://aporee.org:8443/mobilemic18)
JT
20:56
Julia Tieke
Interesting conversation. I really like the idea of an acoustic horizon. I am interested in how it’s really a physical experience, the body stores all kind of spatial information and is informed by it. Not only the mind - if that’s separate at all
JG
22:37
John Grzinich
we will hit -18C tonight. trees are cracking again. one practical example of acoustic horizon is the long reverberations of the cracking sounds. some of these trees can be 300-500m away
SA
22:44
Sam Auinger
hi john ,..I like very much your example for acoustic horizon..you really have a big one
7 January 2023
JG
10:04
John Grzinich
Good morning. Thanks for all your comments. I’ll let the stream run until tomorrow night.
JY
11:38
Joseph Young
I’ve been thinking about the “live” aspect of listening to the streams on here and whether the reason their affect is different from the recorded soundscape is because of the framing. That of an autonomous unmediated ear to the world, not filtered through the acoustic sensibilities of the recordist. A sense of a shared “listening with” which takes us back to the early days of radio perhaps…
SA
18:26
Sam Auinger
thank you for sharing the foto,..with the snow around and the (open)shield from above and behind ….the sound of the stream makes to me now much more sense..I was really wondering how you have placed the mics
MO
20:27
Mace Ojala
Absolutely, i could not agree more with @artofnoises above. It's also about the transience, knowing it'll be gone, not recorded... always a unique situation here and now, out there... another place, but same time
9 January 2023
JG
16:40
John Grzinich
It did help to have some slight shielding from the wind and potential snow. I have to say, Udo’s mobile mic rigs are very resilient. This allows us to really embed the rig in different environments.
u
20:47
unosonic
this pair runs for about 2 years now in Brno Luzanky park, without any problems 😎
MH
21:05
Michiel Huijsman
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Wow impressive. It looks to be placed up on a roof, quite exposed I guess. How does it manage to wthstand windnoise?
u
21:14
unosonic
well, probably it doesn't, if wind is strong enough... but I'm happy that it survived all weathers so far.
MH
21:15
Michiel Huijsman
Yes, obviously! But does the wind noise bother you in the stream?
JG
21:17
John Grzinich
While there is some wind noise these mics don’t distort like other capsules
MH
21:19
Michiel Huijsman
Wow, wonderful. i will find out myself soon enough… will install one semi permanently in Driemond.
u
21:24
unosonic
nice! do you have wifi and grid power there?
21:26
a permanent mic should stream via locusonus.org, like the Brno one. The temporary ones are fine with aporee.org
21:29
locusonus has also the advantage that you're automatically part of the reveil/soundcamp stream in May. The mobilemics are prepared to connect to the locusonus soundmap, I can switch it from remote..
MH
21:35
Michiel Huijsman
Semi permanent i should have said. There is no wifi but power is available…
13 January 2023
JG
15:07
John Grzinich
Dear friends, suddenly the weather has warmed and a light rain is falling. I felt ispired to start the stream again (actually it runs on a semi-permanent basis). With some personal intervention you could think of this as a more organic orchestral version of George Brecht’s 1959 piece “Drip Music” https://aporee.org:8443/mobilemic18
K
16:08
Kirsten
Beautiful, really very ‚musical‘
mv
17:05
milos vojtech
water drums!
u1
20:19
user 1020007
Hi everybody, I try to configure my streambox on locusonus since tree days but I have some issues. I have a raspberry pi zero and a iq-audio zero codec, I download the streambox-4.1-dev-armv6 version, I configure the soundcard in config.txt like dtoverlay=iqaudio-codec, but it seems like the problem is the audio encoder. And I have this message on the raspberry screen : "ASoc : error at soc_component_read_no_lock on da7213.1-001a: -121". I tried many things I learnt a lot but now I'm going crazy if someone can help me I will be eternally grateful.
GS
20:55
Grant Smith
hi user i could help w this
20:58
I am not sure if this is the best place for it, though.. you could also mail me: grant@soundtent.org or send a message to Locus Sonus support: soundmap@locusonus.org
21:01
Just quickly: you do not need to do any manual editing of config.txt. I suggest to undo any changes there and enter simply your account name and passwork and your wifi network name and password in /boot/streambox.txt. For more info's I d be happy to help off-list.
u1
21:23
user 1020007
Hi Grant, thanks for respond me. I did it in streambox.txt, but I read in the folder overlays/readme that we can configure the soundcard. But yes let's speak about it off-list.
n
21:57
neoscenes
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hei John … nice! I used that as my lay-in-bed-waiting-to-get-up sonic stimulation … it significantly delayed the process! ;-)
u
23:57
unosonic
drip and drop, wind/harp, an owl in the distance... intense
14 January 2023
PC
00:07
Peter Cusack
lovely
SA
00:40
Sam Auinger
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the always echoing harp sound with the delicate wind dynamics..very fine
SA
01:45
Sam Auinger
what a great rhythm
JG
01:56
John Grzinich
I’m surprised at how consisten some of the drips are. Yes, there’s been an owl hanging around the last few evenings. Someone was cutting trees in the forest behind us. I’m worried they disturbed a nesting place.
SA
02:18
Sam Auinger
this water drop rhythm is hypnotic for me
PC
11:06
Peter Cusack
JG
11:54
John Grzinich
As a secular athiest, we should ban the word professor because “This sense is traced to 1530s, but is perhaps a revival by the English Puritans of the use of the word from c. 1400 in the sense of "one who openly professes religious faith."
n
17:25
neoscenes
how about ‘sonic facilitator’ …. ?
JY
23:28
Joseph Young
I think the term ‘field recordist’ is difficult to replace. I have stopped using the term ‘capturing sounds’