14 February 2024
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12:29
Tom Fisher
Hi folks
Thanks Lia Mazzari for adding me to this wonderful group, thanks all for having me! Some really interesting discussions happening here.

I wanted to let you know about a feed that recently went live.

It’s part of an art commission I’m doing at Cody Dock on the lower tidal stretches of the River Lea in London. It’s a stereo pair of hydrophones I have installed just off the river bed (varying in submersion from almost out of the water to several meters deep, tide depending) The mics relay to an in-situ listening post riverside on the site, as well as in collaboration with Lia via this live stream on the locusonus network:

https://www.actionpyramid.com/Listen-to-the-Lea


Hopefully will be running until mid/late May if things hold up!
u
12:37
unosonic
Thanks Tom, this sounds interesting, just listening... very rich underwater soundscape. Can you tell a bit more about the microphones in use?
Here's the direct link to the stream: http://locus.creacast.com:9001/london_listen_to_the_lea.mp3
TF
12:39
Tom Fisher
Thank you! Cheers for the direct link as well
12:42
The setup is two Aquarian H2d on 15m cables, mounted on the end of a some pipes to protect the cables
12:43
This is the pair which is then mounted on a scaffold pole frame on the river bed
u
12:49
unosonic
thanks! Nice work, to have an open River listening post. How do people react? Will the stream also be scientifically analysed, species, activity etc.?
TF
12:49
Tom Fisher
A rough drawing to illustrate the position. This is at very low tide. The blue line indicates roughly high tide. The soundscape varies a lot depending on the water level and the flow of the river. When the tide comes in the currents move in the opposite direction of the river flow
12:54
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Thank you :) people are often surprised at the richness. Recently with lots of rain the river appeared like a silent mass of moving green/brown water but below the surface it was full of surprisingly bright sounds, I think lots of sediment and small rocks interacting with the river bed
12:55
The regular sounds occurring just now (I describe them as fizzing or squirting bubbles type noises) I think could possibly be Asian Clams which proliferate in the mud there
12:58
As for species ID if anyone has any ideas I’m all ears. There is very little in terms of an index of underwater sound types when it comes to freshwater/brackish species (As far as I’m aware) Would love to be able to analyse a bit more
LM
12:59
Lia Mazzari
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Do you mean that long sustained fizzy sound like right now?
TF
13:00
Tom Fisher
Yes!
13:00
It could also be fish?
u
13:02
unosonic
hm, fish would maybe move faster
TF
13:02
Tom Fisher
That’s my thoughts as well
13:03
They tend to be more grunting, clicking and grinding sounds as well
13:04
For those interested species recorded there include various shrimps, crabs, molluscs such as snails and clams, various fish including eel, grey mullet and flounder, and even mammals such as grey seals
PC
13:10
Peter Cusack
There are a number of above water sounds coming through too, eg crows, reversing bleeps, maybe a building site, planes. How close to the surface are the mics at the moment?
TF
13:18
Tom Fisher
Yes absolutely Peter, I always find it so interesting the way these sounds penetrate the waters surface yet we cannot hear what’s happening beneath
13:19
A lot of urban activity though. The planes are often from London city airport nearby
13:19
And the area is being majorly rebuilt at the moment
13:21
It’s right at low tide as well so I would guess without being on site the mics are only about 50cm under the water (compared to high tide when they will be submerged to several meters)
u
13:22
unosonic
Tom, can I switch/relay this stream to the radio.earth youtube channel for an hour or 2?
TF
13:22
Tom Fisher
The colony of crows we hear often feed on the Asian Clams I mentioned
13:22
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Absolutely!
13:29
Thank you Udo 🙂
PC
13:32
Peter Cusack
Interesting that crows (very smart, adaptable birds) have learnt to make a meal out a pretty invasive species.
TF
13:36
Tom Fisher
It is isn’t it. They also have figured a way to actually get them open, I have watched them flying up and dropping them from a fair hight onto rocks/concrete to smash the shell!
13:38
don't know how stable that is... it grabs an image and stream from locusonus and creates a video... ;)
TF
13:41
Tom Fisher
Ok great stuff!
u
13:53
unosonic
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like they do with walnuts, have seen that quite often too. clever birds.
13:53
how's the water quality / ecological state of the Lea, in this area, or in general?
TF
14:14
Tom Fisher
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Ah yes nice
14:16
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Historically it’s been really awful, and it’s still very bad, but amazingly there is still a lot of life there. I know Peter has done some amazing work based around the Lea in the past as well
14:18
This is the ecology report at Cody Dock which has been the starting point for my commission there https://codydock.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Final-Cody-Dock-Ecology-Report-2021-spreads-AW.pdf
14:22
Before this was done there was apparently officially zero biodiversity in/on this section of the river. Which meant developers were able to avoid having to create any offsetting measures for redevelopment in area. Thankfully this has changed
u
14:34
unosonic
just read the Executive Summary, impressive. But seems that only numbers count for the "developers", like everywhere. Understandable, but dangerous. When they destroy something here, they promise something elsewhere. As if habitats and their inhabitants were exchangeable. That's the backside of the concept of "ecosystem services".
TF
14:52
Tom Fisher
Sorry yes I was meaning to write “developers” we need a better word for that process
MO
14:54
Mace Ojala
Thank you for the stream, this is very interesting... and with just a single photograph above invoked an entire world in my mind's eye/ear
14:56
Peeked at some satellite images also from that area, what incredible milieu...
TF
15:01
Tom Fisher
Ah thank you Mace 🙏
15:02
Yes the river Lea and its surrounds are such an interesting area
15:06
There seems to be some serious industrial machinery activity happening there just now as well. Also interesting to notice how now the running water type sound has slowly ebbed away as the water level rises from off the rocky riverbed
SA